detroitmak Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Ok love hookah john to death, but we really need to redesign that site... if i was a first time hookah buyer, and i went to his site, i wouldnt know if it was real or a scam... he needs some nice branding and a clean cut design. anyone else share my same feelings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz1337 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Agreed.Makes me lol when I see the pictures of the different pipes on his kitchen counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxc5120 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Defiantly not to be rude or hating on John at all, but yes I think it could use a makeover. But, im also sure its kinda hard to do when you do it all yourself lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 hmm...pretty sure john can make his site look however he wants it to look, its really not up to "us" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 It depends on how many referrals he is getting off of Google compared to Hookah Forum or other hookah related websites. To a first time buyer, it's certainly not as visually pleasing as hookah-shisha or thehookah. But as a frequent customer, I don't mind at all. There's nothing wrong with the site layout as far as usability, but it isn't flashy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitmak Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (delSol_si @ Dec 1 2009, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hmm...pretty sure john can make his site look however he wants it to look, its really not up to "us" True, but we are the customers, and doesn't a business want to cater to its customers needs and tastes... and totally not picking on john, he does an amazing job for a 1 man and wife and daughter show....Maybe we could help him, and he could give us discounts in return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 i can make a few suggestions but i wont at the risk of being called obessed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitmak Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD @ Dec 2 2009, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i can make a few suggestions but i wont at the risk of being called obessed..I think its a bit too late for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (delSol_si @ Dec 1 2009, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hmm...pretty sure john can make his site look however he wants it to look, its really not up to "us" True. But, though I found his site years ago I never ordered from their, sticking to hookah-shisha until I read so many reviews on this page.It needs a make over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (detroitmak @ Dec 2 2009, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD @ Dec 2 2009, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i can make a few suggestions but i wont at the risk of being called obessed..I think its a bit too late for that...hahahahahaahahhaaahahahahahahahahahhaahahhahahaahahhahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) I like the site just fine.... Easiest vendor to navigate. Edited December 2, 2009 by INCUBUSRATM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (INCUBUSRATM @ Dec 2 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I like the site just fine.... Easiest vendor to navigate.I agree. I actually like its simplicity. Makes me feel assured that nothing can be hidden behind fancy webdesign and photoshop. Feels very real, whatcha see is whatcha get, nothing to hide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (detroitmak @ Dec 1 2009, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>anyone else share my same feelings?nope..its easy to navigate, i like the categories...and it works....i don't want some fancy site that takes longer to load...K.I.S.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (Arcane @ Dec 1 2009, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (detroitmak @ Dec 1 2009, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>anyone else share my same feelings?nope..its easy to navigate, i like the categories...and it works....i don't want some fancy site that takes longer to load...K.I.S.S.So, how heavy is that ban hammer yo? Has it gotten lighter over the years? Bahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonix Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (INCUBUSRATM @ Dec 1 2009, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I like the site just fine.... Easiest vendor to navigate.I completely agree, John's site is definitely the easiest to navigate of all the vendor sites I've been on.Don't change a thing John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxik916 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (detroitmak @ Dec 1 2009, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD @ Dec 2 2009, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i can make a few suggestions but i wont at the risk of being called obessed..I think its a bit too late for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dehgo Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 HookahJohn does not need a good website. He has a very large social network from forum to forum that will sell for him! His site only needs to do one job.. and that is to complete the transaction. HookahJohn is liked by many people in hookah forum world there is not a forum that i can't find him on!. and if you ever get a chance meet him he is very easy to get along with. He is the kind of person that makes you want to help him and join his side. He hooked me on his coals and made a big impression. All I can say is good things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiLLooR Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I have never ordered from John although I was going to before the tax company ripped me a new one and I couldn’t afford it this month. Although at face value I admit there is room for improvement aesthetically on his site. When you contact him and deal with him via e-mail it becomes less important because his customer service is really good! On that note although the site could improve, I don’t think it’s a necessity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 In Johns, defense. "Slick" Site Development, is anything but cheap. Added to the fact, that to insure nothing gets screwed up you have to develop a personal Content Manager for the End User to make changes they wish without re-employing the original web designer....Very Expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 if it aint broke dont fix it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) i like the site the way it is, makes it seem more of a mom-and-pop online retailer rather then Sahara smoke. I dont need eye candy to get what I want. Edited December 2, 2009 by newjacksm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_rabbit Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (Arcane @ Dec 2 2009, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (detroitmak @ Dec 1 2009, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>anyone else share my same feelings?nope..its easy to navigate, i like the categories...and it works....i don't want some fancy site that takes longer to load...K.I.S.S.+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 i like johns layout. i actully prefer the kitchen table pics. it gives a much more accurate idea of what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 i think his site is tip top. sure, i mean if you have no idea who he is then it might seem weird i guess. if i were some random who was lead to his site via a search engine then i probably would go with h-s or hc. but john is a very unique package. he isn't going for flashy web design and I LIKE THAT. tell me what other vendor will personally call you up and tell you what's up with your order. moreover, tell me which vendor will post up videos on youtube giving us insight into his whole process, from his garage-warehouse, where he packages orders, and him eating his after-church meal and smoking with his father-in-law who can't speak english! he isn't out here to be flashy. the guy is here to provide a service and products which IMO, there isn't another vendor out there that comes close to what he's doing. john get's major points in my book. it's because of the feel everything about him has, from his videos at home to his website. it's obvious it's his show. it's hookahjohn; that is it is him, not hookah company, not hookah-shisha. my point is hookah john is john. let it be john. if you take the john out of it; if you take the kitchen counter tops and the vids with the father in law out of it then why order from him.keep it up john. op is talking out of his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caterpillar Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 In the OP's defense, the suggestion stemmed from a concern on improving John's business. In this cutthroat capitalist society, a consumer's compassion/concern is rarely expressed and we should appreciate that for even suggesting--- that said:I imagine that there is a calculable number of people who make it to the first page and leave because it is rather non-linear. If a redesign were done, it wouldn't deter his current, die hard fanbase that stems from us. It would only attract the newer more vain customers who are more concerned with aesthetics... and their dollar is just as valuable as anyone's to John's well-being as a business owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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